Hey, got tired of dealing with progressively more broken Kubuntu upgrades and thought I'd give Netrunner a spin. Currently regretting it because the desktop does not start up on boot. Maybe there's a conflict between KDE4 & KDE5? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
No desktop on installation of Netrunner Rolling
Only if you kept your home folder, Plasma 5 will try to import and convert your kde4 settings, but this can take a while. When I tried this on my test system it took somewhere between 5 and 20 minutes to complete and sometimes failed miserably with no desktop loading (a ctrl+alt+backspace usually fixed this)..
Anyway, this might also be a graphics driver or some other issue, what are your system specs.
(27th October 2015, 13:32)AJSlye Wrote: Only if you kept your home folder, Plasma 5 will try to import and convert your kde4 settings, but this can take a while. When I tried this on my test system it took somewhere between 5 and 20 minutes to complete and sometimes failed miserably with no desktop loading (a ctrl+alt+backspace usually fixed this)..
Hm, in my haste it seems I made things worse. I was migrating from Kubuntu 15.04 (which already ran Plasma 5) but my home folder was encrypted -- and my efforts to re-mount my encrypted folder failed for lack of the encryption passphrase. So I performed a clean install and formatted my /home partition. (I have backups of my important settings & can reinstall 3rd party software as needed.)
Anyway, I've got an octo-core AMD Athlon 64 FX processor & twin nVidia video cards (each a 1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti) -- my two monitors are connected to just the one card, and this is a setup that both Kubuntu 15.04 & the Netrunner DVD had no problems with. I assumed a clean install would get me an operational desktop as I had given up trying to "migrate" anything ... I'm not going back to Grandma prison (aka Kubuntu).
Note that at the moment I'm not even getting a DM (no KDM, GDM, SDDM, etc.) whereas when I still had my encrypted /home partition I was able to get the Netrunner rolling DM. Now I get only a console prompt.
Thanks in advance for any further insight or suggestions.
With the twin cards your best bet would be to start the Live media using the non-free option (Nvidia Proprietary Drivers).
Note: this may take a bit longer to boot up since MHWD will need to install and load the correct version of the nvidia driver for your twin nVidia video cards. Also make sure you disable secure boot if your using UEFI.
Yup, way ahead of you. I've only been starting up the live media with the non-free option. And I disabled Secure Boot quite awhile ago when I first installed Kubuntu on my system. And I've installed Rolling this way -- with the result I have now.
I would not think disk partition layout factors at all in my system's apparent inability to install/configure KDE, but just in case: I've got a non-trivial disk setup, and I'm using the manual partition option. This lets me set up my /, /home and /var partitions on my 3rd & 4th disks (1st & 2nd being devoted to Windows 10). Also, I've got my GRUB set up on my 2nd drive, where it can mediate between Windows 10 & Netrunner.
Anything else I can look at? Thanks again.
OK, in that case could you try booting it using the free drivers and let me know the results?
OK, after a number of consecutive attempts to install using the free drivers (with various GRUB-related failures) I've managed to get to a working DM, have logged in successfully and even (gasp) gotten the expected desktop. Huzzah! Now I merely need to install nVidia drivers & enable dual-monitor. I'm assuming this should be straightforward. AJSlye, thanks for the help.
Yes, under system settings we have integrated msm (Manjaro Settings Manager), in this there is a hardware detection utility that can be used to install the non-free drivers for video and sometimes networking.
If you run into any issues at all, please use the Manjaro wiki's Nvidia setup page:
Wiki main page:
Ugh, this is frustrating beyond belief. Even after getting a desktop I'm not able to upgrade via pacman without endless complaints about conflicting packages or dependencies. A starting system should not have upgrade issues like this. I realize the upgrade path from KDE4 to KDE5 is littered with gotchas but from what I've seen in your forum post about the subject it shouldn't be encountering breaking errors throughout. I've downloaded, burned & installed from the latest Rolling ISO -- and I'm still not able to just upgrade the system without having to first toss old versions of software. And even then I'm getting complaints about conflicting packages that break the upgrade. In addition I'm getting unreliable results when I try to reinstall -- the exact same installation setup seems to produce only a console login prompt (minus DM/desktop) more times than not. Is there something I'm missing here? I'd love to be able to use this distro but the result is undermining my trust in it.
Back at the console-only login; in response to "sudo pacman -Syyu" I'm getting "error: unresolvable package conflicts detected" due to conflicting dependencies, because "akonadi-qt4 and akonadi are in conflict". This is where I've been even when I'm able to get the desktop up & running. Is this because the current state of Rolling is between KDE4 & KDE5? Thanks again for any insight and/or suggestions.